Key Points:
- Transitioning from Military to Civilian Careers: Alex Renfro shared his journey from active-duty service in the Air Force to the civilian workforce. He highlighted the importance of leveraging benefits like the GI Bill for education, using tools like LinkedIn for networking, and being patient with the process. He underscored that finding a job isn’t the end of the transition, as adapting to civilian work culture and maintaining connections within the veteran community are equally vital.
- The Power of Networking and Mentorship: Renfro emphasized the value of building and utilizing a professional network, especially on platforms like LinkedIn, to connect with veterans and others in desired career paths. He also discussed the importance of mentorship—seeking guidance from experienced individuals and giving back by mentoring others.
- Navigating Imposter Syndrome and Career Challenges: Renfro candidly addressed the challenges of imposter syndrome during major life transitions. He offered strategies such as maintaining patience and persistence, leveraging mentorship, and focusing on realistic career goals. He reminded listeners that transitions often involve trial and error and encouraged them to redefine success as continuous growth rather than immediate perfection.
Transcript:
Emily Bose: Excellent. Welcome to the show. I’m Emily Bose. I’m a managing director here at Transition Overwatch, and I am really excited to be chatting with Alex Renfro from Omnia Partners today. Alex, thanks so much for being on the show with me.
Alex Renfro: Yeah, Emily, thanks for having me. Happy to be here.
Emily Bose: Of course. While we were chatting, you know, before the show a little bit, and I know you’re a veteran, you have a really powerful story around your transition and just the things that you’ve navigated to end up in the position that you’re in now and really feel like, you know, you had a lot of valuable things to share around that. So that’s kind of where we’re going to start the conversation today. I’d love to hear, you know, kind of how your journey started and how you ended up in the military, and just take us through sort of your timeline to where you are now.
Alex Renfro: Yeah, absolutely. Grew up in the Nashville area, actually. So it’s kind of great that Transition Overwatch is kind of focusing on the space. But I was a traditional ROTC student through college and commissioned into the Air Force back in 2010. Did about seven years total active-duty service. I was a 14N intelligence officer.
For the majority of my career, I actually went in kind of as a chemist. It’s actually kind of a nerdy career field, believe it or not. So kind of some cool stuff there, but realized relatively quickly I wanted to work more on the operational side of things. So found my way over to the intelligence career field.
I did about seven years. I realized after a couple deployments and PCSing a bit, I was ready to transition out and move back towards Nashville. Went back to school, used my GI Bill benefits, joined the Guard, actually. There was a Guard unit here close in the Nashville area that allowed me to continue my service. Finished grad school kind of right at the start of COVID. So December 2019, quite literally, unfortunately. You’re looking at a post-grad school transition into the civilian career field that really slowed things up.
But I was very fortunate to be able to continue my service in a full-time capacity. Our unit had the opportunity for basically active-duty Title X orders and did that for a couple of years. And then once COVID kind of calmed down, I was able to get a job with Amazon and kind of working on the corporate side in transportation and logistics, which was a great experience. Kind of joke that you age in dog years at Amazon—a great place to learn a lot of things.
And then just as of most recently, about a year and a half ago, I joined a company called Omnia Partners through a close network contact. And it’s been a great journey and just finally fully transitioned out from part-time Guard service back in August of 2023. So about thirteen years total wearing the uniform.
Emily Bose: Wow, that’s a great overview and thank you so much for your service. We really appreciate that, and it’s interesting to hear how you went from, you know, active-duty Air Force into the Guard. I feel like quite a few people go from active-duty service to either Guard or Reserves and so I think it’s great for people to hear from someone who had that sort of multi, I don’t know what the right word is, multidisciplinary sort of career in the military.
Emily Bose: Were you doing a similar role in the Guard that you had done in the Air Force?
Alex Renfro: Yeah, basically the same. I stayed as a 14N. And at least my experience, you know, transitioning out through TAP, a lot of that information is not shared. I don’t feel like actually learning to, hey, here are the resources at your disposal on how to go into the Reserves or go into the Guard.
A lot of that was, believe it or not, through my intel training. I met some of the cadre there making introductions basically the first week, said something along the lines of, “We’re transitioning out, and we’re going to go help stand up this new intel wing in the Nashville area.” And I grew up about thirty minutes outside of Nashville, so that piqued my interest and stayed in touch with them and helped me facilitate that transition when the time came.
Emily Bose: OK, it’s interesting that you mentioned that. So just out of curiosity, how did you get your job at Amazon? Was that also through a connection, or did you go through their normal kind of application process?
Alex Renfro: Normal application process. But the one thing—and I will say Amazon does get kind of a, you know, they have a reputation. People that ask enough about Amazon, I tell people, encourage them, if you’re going to consider Amazon, to have a plan and just kind of know what you’re trying to get out of it.
But it was, as I mentioned, I went through COVID. So there were quite a number of applications, but they have a pretty strong footprint in Nashville. They have their new Operations Center of Excellence that’s down on Tenth and Church. Nice big building, like twenty-three something stories, I think. So there’s a lot of opportunity.
I applied to a bunch of jobs, and then I actually saw one that was—I think it said “Senior Program Manager,” and then in the parentheses after it said “Military Encouraged to Apply.” What I learned after some time and when I got through that interview process was Amazon had a dedicated portion of their recruiting arm that was specifically for military.
With such a large organization—at their peak, I think they employed 1.5 to 1.6 million—that’s a lot of people. It’s amazing how many people they employ. So they had a dedicated team of individuals that were either veterans or understood a good bit about veterans. They’re very proficient in understanding what you bring to the table, and I appreciated that.
And then going to an organization in the same way that I transitioned from active duty, I liked that Amazon at the time, a lot of things were similar to what the military felt like. So very structured, huge veteran community there. I mean, over a hundred thousand vets, I believe, worked at Amazon at the time. So it was easy to assimilate into that space. You were kind of a known entity, and it was a great experience.
Emily Bose: That’s awesome. It’s interesting. I ask that question because you mentioned, you know, in a sense, networking your way into your Guard position. And then I know you also said your current role you got through someone in your network.
I think networking a lot of times is underrated. I feel like people either don’t realize that it’s something they can do, they don’t know how to take advantage of their network, or I feel like sometimes people feel like it’s cheating or somehow taking like an easy way out or something to like take a job from a friend of someone they know or whatever. But we highly encourage people, you know, to use their network. I mean, it’s an incredible resource to have. And as you’ve demonstrated, you can create a lot of really great opportunities for yourself.
Is there anything that you’ve learned for those military members out there who may be approaching or thinking about transition from just a networking perspective? How would you advise them to approach, you know, trying to—in a holistic kind of way—take advantage of their network?
We don’t want to make them feel like, you know, salesmen or something where they’re having to go out and do something they’re going to be uncomfortable with, you know, but in a really genuine way, I think there’s a lot that you can do. So would love to hear any thoughts you have on that.
Alex Renfro: Sure, sure. I think a big advantage and something that can be—it’s kind of garbage in, garbage out—I love LinkedIn. I think that you can kind of get—you can get sucked into the things that maybe don’t matter.
But it’s a great way to actually research organizations and find other veterans is kind of usually the first step because it’s usually the most comfortable. I try to put myself out there on LinkedIn as a resource for individuals all the time.
OK, if you have questions, if you’re in Nashville, if you just want to get—I will always find time for a fifteen-to-thirty-minute call or a coffee in person if somebody is in the area and just wants to ask questions.
So I would encourage—use the tool. I mean, it’s 2024. It’s a network tool. It’s been built out, I think, very successfully. You can go into individual organizations. You can type by keyword. You can find people in the area. And then usually I encourage finding somebody that you think is working in a role that you’d like to see yourself in maybe three to five or ten years, and then just kind of ask how they did it.
I’ve had conversations with C-suite executives that were prior veterans just to pay. Tell me about your journey, especially ones that had the same career field as me. Like, hey, you were an intel officer. How did you find your way to what you’re doing now? I’d love to hear your lessons learned. And I’ve never once had a bad experience reaching out and doing that.
Alex Renfro: And I’d say the important part, too, is I think there’s a general consensus. Once you’ve achieved that job—“I got my job, I’ve successfully transitioned”—is getting a little too comfortable. So I try to do that anyway, and that just allows me to stay connected to the veteran network in the Nashville area. I love finding other vets and people that I can reach out to and help.
And I just think that’s the biggest recommendation I could give: doing that. And then don’t let the stigma or rumors or thoughts about things slow you down from pursuing that. Because, I mean, it’s your life we’re talking about. It’s your career. And the best piece of advice I ever got was from the very first colonel I had in ROTC. I was a young kid. And he said, “Hey, nobody cares more about your stuff than you do.”
And that’s, you know, in a military approach, that’s all things. That’s your records. That’s you getting your next assignment while you’re active duty. That’s, you know, figuring out your transition or your retirement if you’ve done a, you know… And if you really take that to heart, I think you’ll find some success.
Emily Bose: Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense. And I think that advice is good that networking is not a one-time deal. It’s something you should be doing all the time.
I also try to advise people of this because I’ve spent a lot of time in the recruiting space in the last few years and worked with a lot of veterans: people don’t realize the world is very small. You should never burn any bridges, but especially not if you’re wanting to be in a smaller community like Nashville, where you’re going to cross paths with people again.
And if you don’t get the job you were hoping to get or other things, keep those responses professional. Maintain those professional relationships because you never know how long you’re going to be in the job you’re in now and when you’re going to need another one. And, you know, you want to stand out in people’s minds as someone they’d want to come back to.
So I think that’s great advice, you know, not only to network for what you need in the moment, but, you know, for your future career as well. What prompted you to go to school straight out of the military versus going straight into the workforce?
Alex Renfro: Sure. That’s actually an interesting question and something I was reflecting on. I was considering going right into the workforce and actually partnered with a firm that’s probably very familiar to a lot of junior military officers called Cameron-Brooks, based out of Texas.
So they’re kind of that headhunting type firm. They bring in junior military officers and help them with that transition. So I actually partnered with them first and was planning to go direct to workforce, but had some life events happen and an opportunity to get back to the Nashville area.
And I saw going back to school as a great transition tool. For me, I wanted to go back to grad school. Obviously, having been a chemist, I had no business classes. You know, you have a general idea and you have a great soft skill set of, you know, detailed information, presenting in front of people, you know, working under stress. Anybody that’s been in a military environment that supports operations understands what that’s like.
So you have a lot of those things to bring to the table. But I thought to myself, well, I’m very likely going to either maybe someday work in my own business or work for someone in business. So I should probably try to learn something about that.
And the great thing about the GI Bill is having access to your BAH that comes in while you’re in school. If you use it in tandem with part-time Guard service, which is what I did, you get access to TRICARE Reserve Select, which was great.
So I was in this position of being able to go to school, really get my feet wet and focus on just learning the material. And my position is not like a lot of others, obviously those that have families that are looking to transition out with young children. You know, you were going to probably have to work and also try to go to school at the same time, which can be tough.
But I just wanted to go and learn in school and figure out kind of where I could work and what I wanted to do and use it as a transition tool. And I can’t say enough good things about that program and using that benefit. Even after grad school, I’ve been using it for certification courses and additional education after that, and definitely would encourage folks to use that.
Emily Bose: That’s awesome. Something I wanted to mention when you were talking about LinkedIn earlier that I think a lot of people don’t know is LinkedIn offers a year of LinkedIn Premium for free for transitioning military members.
We usually recommend that you don’t start that until you’re actually transitioning so you can really—or you’re close to transitioning—so you can really use that while you’re job hunting. But that unlocks a bunch of tools for you to look deeper into companies. And also, I think unlocks all of their LinkedIn learning modules. So you can get additional certifications and things for free, which is great.
Another one of those, I think, underutilized benefits of transition.
Emily Bose: Something that you mentioned in our earlier conversation before we went live was just the process of kind of finding a new tribe and assimilating into the civilian culture. You know, something I’ve heard a lot from transitioning military members is, number one, transition’s just harder than most people think it’s going to be. Curious to hear your thoughts on that.
And also, I think a lot of people—I shouldn’t say a lot of people, I’ve heard specifically from individuals that they felt like they maybe took for granted or didn’t realize the strength of the team that they had in the military or those things that were built in that they kind of had and didn’t realize they had until they came out and didn’t have that. And then what a value those things were to them.
So how did you go about making that actual transition yourself, finding that new tribe or building that new team around yourself and kind of assimilating into civilian culture? What did that look like for you? How did you feel like transition was in terms of, was it easier than you thought, harder than you thought, about what you thought? Where did that land for you as well?
Alex Renfro: Sure. I’ll start with that, actually. I would say that it landed about what I thought and then a little harder. I had the realization that transition doesn’t stop when you get a job. Usually those feelings of, like you mentioned, imposter syndrome, call it a little bit of nervousness, anxiety, because you look back and you realize there were a lot of things built in.
Everybody’s wearing the same uniform, understands the mission, going in the same direction. And that’s tough to replicate. And I think the military does a fantastic job at that. But a lot of it for me was focusing on what does a successful transition look like and keeping my expectations in place.
So for me, it was, I need to land on my feet and learn as much as I can in the business space and build that credibility over time.
When it comes to finding your tribe, I think something that’s actually helped me a lot is you don’t have to just wipe your hands of it and never participate in those communities again. Obviously, I love doing things like this. Being involved in local veteran groups is fantastic.
I always, again, try to reach out and let vets know they can reach out to me and reach back as you’ve gone out and found your path to transition and hung up the uniform—reaching back to those that are trying to do the same. So that helps me stay plugged into that community.
You know, Amazon is very veteran proficient. They had a great recruiting process, but that’s not for everyone. After some time, I wanted the opportunity to not be in such a constrained environment. Amazon was very structured, and I appreciated that. But I eventually moved on to something different that was more aligned with what I wanted for my long-term goals.
I found my way to my current company. And then just having an open mind. Your uniform and your service isn’t your core identity. I think that’s something that I picked up. And this is just a plug for trying to get out there and learn as much as you can.
One of the things in one of my favorite books was Atomic Habits from James Clear. And he talks a lot about what is your core identity and what does that mean. And reflect on that.
And I typically try to—not “know your audience” is an important one. So when you’re going to people—I work in an organization right now that’s very patriotic. Our CEO is very much trying to give back to the community all the time.
One thing I’ll say that I loved about the organization is when I showed up for my interview in the primary lobby, they had a pretty large, call it maybe six-by-four painting of the flag on Iwo Jima, which I was very proud to see that. And I was like, you know, what a nice thing to do. And then they follow through with action.
But, you know, jokingly, I say you don’t want to go full military and say very dark humor and your acronyms and those kinds of things. You’ll find your way as you go.
But I think that as people get to know you, they’ll ask questions. You know, I have some things hanging in my office from my service. And, you know, people are like, “Oh, I didn’t know you served. What did you do?” And it gives you the opportunity to share your story.
And then over time, you’ll realize that, you know, you’re meant to be there. And that kind of leads into that imposter syndrome piece and, wow, hey, I really can do this. And, you know, I’m happy to be here.
And then I’ve gotten more—I’m very thankful and proud of my service as I’ve transitioned out. And it gives me a chance to look back on it. And I look back on it very fondly.
Emily Bose: Yeah, that’s fantastic. My fault for stacking questions on you. I know we did want to shift into talking about some of that imposter syndrome because I think this is something that everyone faces at major life transitions.
And so it’s not military-specific in that sense. I don’t think it’s something that anyone should feel bad or ashamed about experiencing. Imposter syndrome—I think everybody feels it at some time in their life or another.
You know, if you’re going from college to the workforce or—I recently became a parent, you know, that’s a big one for, “I have no idea what I’m doing here right now.” Anytime you have just a huge life transition or you make a big career change or transition, it can be easy to feel those things.
But I think something about imposter syndrome is it comes in with a lot of shame and makes you kind of want to hide and isolate yourself because you feel like you’re not able to measure up to the thing that you’re trying to do.
So I would love to hear, you know, for those military members or anybody in our audience that may be, you know, struggling with that. What have you found effective to help you combat or overcome it?
Alex Renfro: Sure. First, I would say mentorship is a huge one. If you don’t have a mentor, get one or get three.
I have a dear friend of mine who has been a mentor from when we wore the uniform together. He is still in the Nashville area. We connect regularly and talk about everything from life to work. So there’s a lot of value there just to be able to talk through those things.
Him having been a veteran is very helpful to me as well because he gets it, and we work in the same career field. But then leaning into the mentor programs that may be offered at your organizations once you land that job is finding somebody that emulates and is doing something that you might be interested in pursuing and understanding their career path, be it veteran or not.
Our organization—both Amazon and Omnia Partners—both have a formal mentorship program. So I got paired with a mentor, which was very helpful. I actually connected with her last week, which was great to update and give her the happenings in life.
And then obviously trying to fulfill that role yourself as well. I now get to be a mentor within my organization, which is very helpful.
And then I would say, I think of the words patience and persistence often. I know I can tend to be—one of my flaws, I would say, is impatience. And I think a lot of that comes with speed and tempo of what we do in the military. You’re expected to learn quickly, execute quickly, and solve problems.
And it’s really a skillset you can bring to bear, but it can also, at least for me—it’s, I want to hit certain milestones and move things very quickly. And sometimes you just have to—you can’t be a battering ram all the time.
It’s very important to be patient and persistent. It’ll come.
Emily Bose: That’s fantastic. I really have appreciated the Stockdale principles. And I remember hearing him talk about how people who were optimistic when they were in the POW camp were the ones who ended up dying of a broken heart because they were always putting these false deadlines like, “Oh, we’ll be home by Christmas,” “We’ll be home by Easter,” “We’ll be home by Thanksgiving.” And when they weren’t meeting those deadlines that they kind of arbitrarily put in place, they would just literally like wither away.
And being able to, like you said, own your circumstances and know that you’re going to make it through, no matter the timeframe, is really powerful. And sometimes I think my addition to that would be, “The only way out is through,” right?
You know, because a lot of times you just—you just gotta put one foot in front of the other until you’re done. And if you’re someone who has gone through the military, you’ve faced adversity, you have been required to do things that you were very uncomfortable with in the sense of outside of your comfort zone, you’ve already demonstrated resilience in your life. And so this is just another opportunity to be comfortable with being uncomfortable, if you will, and demonstrate that resilience.
That’s something that’s helpful for me in, you know, facing those hard things—just being like, “Okay, I’ve done hard things before, right? I survived. I can do these hard things.”
Alex Renfro: Absolutely.
Emily Bose: And those mentors can help you remember that too.
Alex Renfro: And that’s been some of the best conversations I’ve had is from an outside perspective. And sometimes it’s kind of like a, you know, smack on the head. Just like, “Hey, you’ve done much harder things. Like, what are you talking about?”
Which is such a great reminder, like, to your exact point: you’ve signed your name on a line before, you’ve worn a uniform, whether you were, you know, flying an aircraft, dropping bombs, kicking doors, or if you were in a support role like myself, you’ve done the things and you offered up your time and your mind and your body to go and do things that the majority of people don’t get to or don’t do.
So that’s a fantastic reminder: being able to do that. And then just having that support network and knowing that you’ll find your way through. And that’s really important, I think, during the initial stages of transition.
And I remind veterans often: one of the things that we do is we partner with a local nonprofit, Operation Stand Down Tennessee, which you may have heard of. And they do—I think it’s Operation Recon, I may screw it up—but they have vets come through that are transitioning.
Omnia Partners participates in the last day, and they do speed coaching, pseudo-mock interviewing, and help them look at resumes.
Emily Bose: Oh, wow.
Alex Renfro: And I always like to participate with our recruiting team there. So I’ll go just as another veteran, you know, helping out. And something that really resonates when I share it is, “Hey, remember, when you’re transitioning, you’re not getting orders.”
So there’s this thought, I believe, across the veteran community—whether you’ve done four years or you’ve done twenty-eight years—that you have to get this transition perfectly right. It has to be the right job that I’m going to work twenty years in, and it’s going to be, you know—
Emily Bose: Yeah.
Alex Renfro: And it’s keeping those expectations in check too. You know, if you’re a senior enlisted leader or senior officer, “I’m going to roll right into, you know, VP level and above.” It’s—hey, not to say you can’t, but it’s understanding that you may not the first time, and that’s okay.
And these aren’t orders. So if you get in there—like kind of I did at Amazon—I was thrilled. I had Amazon on my resume and I was like, “Wow, what a great thing.” But after a couple of years, I realized kind of looking at the environment—there were layoffs going on—understanding that, “Is this something I want to do for the long term?”
And that’s okay. And I think that’s a great thing is discovering what your journey’s like and when to make that leap. And I think the leaps that I’ve made—from Amazon to Omnia—it was smooth and so obvious. And I just knew it was the right answer, getting to go talk to them.
So patience and persistence. Knowing that it’s not a death sentence, you’re not getting orders. Like, “If I don’t like this job, I’m just done forever.” That’s not necessarily true.
Emily Bose: Not necessarily true, absolutely. That’s a great point. And it is something we’ve observed in our work with veterans—a lot of times there’s this pressure that the first job out of the military has to be, you know, exactly right or the thing you’re going to want to do for the next twenty years.
And sometimes it’s as simple as, you know, just get out and get something that works, that you can see yourself doing for two years or three years. Sometimes we’ve actually encouraged people to think of it almost the opposite of your point—not as orders, but like, if it’s easier for you, think of it as being like a three-year deployment.
Alex Renfro: Yeah, absolutely.
Emily Bose: “I’m going to do this for two to three years, and then if I want to move on, I can.” But it makes it easier, I feel like, than trying to think, “Oh, I must find the role that I will do for the rest of my life.”
There’s very few people at this point in our world, in our working environment, that are going to find a job that they’re going to do for thirty years. It’s not—
Alex Renfro: Yeah.
Emily Bose: I feel like it’s not a lot of that anymore.
Alex Renfro: It’s becoming less and less common.
Emily Bose: Yeah.
Alex Renfro: And a lot of it too—I don’t know if a resource I didn’t know a lot about until I found it was the RMC calculator. Are you familiar with this?
Emily Bose: No, I don’t think so.
Alex Renfro: It’s a government tool. It’s Regular Military Compensation calculator.
Emily Bose: Oh.
Alex Renfro: I actually really like it. That allows you to put in your service time and your rank, your location, your dependent size, and it’ll kind of spit you out a number. Generally speaking, you’d probably have to make this to have an equivalent salary, which is—that’s something to keep in mind for a lot of vets is they want to hit a certain salary.
But that’s part of that research and that work and the preparation for separation and retirement.
Emily Bose: Yeah.
Alex Renfro: Researching: Where am I at currently? What would this look like? And to achieve something like that, what type of companies and roles in the area I want to live? Is that going to do? And if there are any gaps, that’s using your benefits, going and getting certifications, PMP, graduate school, whatever might work for you.
Emily Bose: That’s excellent.
Alex Renfro: Yeah.
Emily Bose: Well, I think that’s a great point to start wrapping up. The one thing that we really like to ask as our final question on all of our interviews is—since we’re focused on Nashville, and I know you’ve mentioned Nashville quite a few times—so just to sort of wrap things up, why Nashville for you?
Why do you think other veterans should come to the Nashville area or consider it?
Alex Renfro: Sure. Every organization, individual across my network working in different organizations—that’s from healthcare to tech to manufacturing, you name it—everyone seems to have an understanding of or respect for veterans and their service.
And I think I really appreciated that. Even if it’s relatively minimal, I wouldn’t say, like, “We have an entire program dedicated to vets,” but they at least understand, “Oh, wow, that’s great. Like, we’d love to talk to you,” or at least put you in touch with someone.
So I like that. I like that Nashville has become a hub for a lot of big organizations that have moved into the area. Think about Amazon, Asurion, Alliance Bernstein, Bridgestone, Schneider Electric, Nissan. There’s a lot of large names in the Nashville area, and I think they’re going to continue to grow.
So there’s always going to be a large opportunity there. Having grown up here, I was a bit biased. Of course, I have family here, which helped me come back home.
And I’ve really enjoyed that and think about no income—no state income tax, which was great consideration for me.
Emily Bose: The taxes, yeah.
Alex Renfro: The taxes. And just a general place that I could see myself raising my family. Because you’ve got the Nashville immediate area. And what’s great is you drive kind of thirty minutes in any direction and you get a really great experience.
You can get beautiful rolling Tennessee hills and outdoor activities. And that’s just the kind of life that I was hoping to have and to live. And it always drew me back to the area.
And then, of course, it’s not bad that you can access the airport and really get to a lot of great places pretty quick if you wanted to fly. So that’s beneficial too for a lot of the day and age of remote and hybrid work. So if you had a company that’s maybe based out of Chicago or Atlanta, but they were like, “Oh, you’re relatively close to a major hub, and you can travel,” that’s a consideration too.
So that’s just—that’s what really drew me to the area, and I’m very thankful to be here.
Emily Bose: That’s awesome. Well, thank you so much. I feel like there was a lot of really great value in our conversation for really anybody that’s going through a major transition or in the job market, but especially for those military members or veterans that are just making that transition or maybe have recently transitioned.
And, you know, it sounds like Alex is available potentially to answer some questions.
Alex Renfro: Anytime, happy to do that.
Emily Bose: In your network?
Alex Renfro: Yeah, definitely find me on LinkedIn and shoot me a message. I almost always will respond within a day and we’ll find time. I’m always happy to reach back and help.
Emily Bose: Wonderful. Well, thank you so much, Alex. I hope you have a great day, and we look forward to chatting again soon.
Alex Renfro: Sounds great, Emily. Thanks.
